The science of vaccine denial
@lumbercartel wrote: And in case you have not noticed, people my age (64) are dying of cancer at an alarming rate. Age-adjusted cancer deaths in our age cohort (and I'm your age) are actually down....
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@chgoliz wrote: Medical research is starting to understand the origins of autoimmune disorders, and there seems to be a two-fold path: first, a genetic predisposition, and second, a childhood virus or...
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@waetherman wrote: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/0222/Parents-can-t-sue-drug-firms-when-vaccines-cause-harm-Supreme-Court-says TLDR: while drug companies might not be immune from every...
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@AnthonyC wrote: Yes, vaccines have side effects. Some can kill you, like the smallpox vaccine (1-2 per million death rate). So can almost anything else in existence. That's why we stopped giving...
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@Medievalist wrote: All of the science of vaccine denial is contained in the phrase "the tragedy of the commons". There is a non-zero chance that vaccination will hurt your child. But vaccination only...
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@nojaboja wrote: thedarkbackward: I would suggest that the "interesting conclusions" that people drew before the advent of the scientific method may be more "interesting" than reliable. This statement...
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@nojaboja wrote: No, just means we should be able to ask questions of research today and tomorrow. Read full topic
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@bolamig wrote: kupfernigk: I would cheerfully imprison for life without parole anyone who tries to use fake science to discredit vaccines. The first amendment means that little to you? Read full topic
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@bolamig wrote: Western medicine talked me out of many vaccinations. When I was preparing for a round the world trip, I figured vaccines are safe and I only get one chance so give me everything you've...
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@chgoliz wrote: Not getting vaccinated is not perfectly safe either. It's not safe for the person not getting vaccinated, and it's not safe for anyone they come in contact with whose immune system is...
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@Itsumishi wrote: So we should use the scientific method? Read full topic
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@nojaboja wrote: The scientific method is not the same as asking questions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method#Pragmatic_model...
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@nojaboja wrote: At the core discourse needs a conducive environment to flourish. Not sure Fucking kindness is helpful in that context. Read full topic
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@nojaboja wrote: Humbabella: The doctors are right, you are being a foolThe doctors are wrong, you somehow noticed something no one else didThe doctors are lying, it's a conspiracy There is of course...
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@bolamig wrote: All I know is that I often read posts by Cory that make it seem like something is settled by science that actually isn't so settled, and I would hate for him to go to jail. Read full...
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@bolamig wrote: Fraud is actionable in the USA as a civil matter, but criminalizing bad science (or even lies posing as science) would taint just about everyone in government who attempts to use...
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@Itsumishi wrote: Both of those links specifically outline that the scientific method relies on questioning previous research (and anyone that understands the scientific method, understands this is...
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@Humbabella wrote: Medievalist: My take on the vaccination crusade is that y'all are ranting about a broken window while your house is burning down. Measles is super-duper contagious. With the lower...
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@nojaboja wrote: That is of course relevant and correct, but is not what differentiates the scientific method from other methods of truth finding i.e. critical thinking. Critical Thinking is per se...
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@nojaboja wrote: Humbabella: What I'm tired of is people being so convinced that they know everything that they think they should be involved in every decision that is made. I sympathise with the...
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@Humbabella wrote: nojaboja: After all thanks to Thatcher and Co we are living in the "there is no such thing as society" world. This, presumably, is what I'm actually really annoyed by. I mean, where...
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@timehof wrote: It's good to know about SV40 not doing much to us. Was there really pathology on this entire population? Tell me where this data is because I'm not privy to it. Could it be that death...
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@timehof wrote: Also, lumbercartel, according to the NIH SV40 has been detected in human cancer tumors. Maybe you have not read the literature because they took it down. Look at <...
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